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Peka · Nov 20, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

nightfall

enough said

Titan Chrae · Nov 20, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

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Originally Posted by Walkrr

Could you explain this to me a little more? What are sunspear points?

Sunspear points are another reward system introduced in Nightfall. They provide another title for you and some benefits to your Heros. At a few points in the game they become chokepoints where you need a certain amount to continue the main quests. It isn't much of a problem in you are not trying to rush to the end of the game. Doing the other quests and missions usually nets you the required SSP without farming them.

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What has happened to the AI?

The AI is smarter now. Monks Kite and mobs run from area damage. Now...most decent players would see this as a good thing. But some people don't like to be challenged or would rather be able to farm 15,000 an hour from stupid AI.

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and is there a lack of players or something?

Absolutely not. The above post is referencing the tendency of people to use the Heroes more often now and not gather in PUGS. If you have a guild or a good friends list this isn't a problem. Personally, I gather my party of friends and use the heroes as filler.

Hope this clears some things up for you.

twentynine · Nov 20, 2006, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by Walkrr

Could you explain this to me a little more? What are sunspear points? What has happened to the AI? and is there a lack of players or something?

He means that there is a point in Nightfall where you will need to "grind" for sunspear points (aka kill mobs and do quests) to advance in the game. Honestly, it's not that different from where you need to grind for faction in Factions to advance the story. I wouldn't worry about it honestly. People that complain about this sort of thing are probably new to these kinds of games, as the "grind" is pretty laughable by MMO standards.

The AI problems... meh. Sometimes mobs aggro you from outside of your aggro bubble. Not the end of the world. We're spoiled rotten with Guild Wars, the only game to even show you your aggro range on the minimap.

The lack of players is because Nightfall heroes are superior to random players 95% of the time if you've twinked them properly. The end result? Very few people group in Nightfall except for the last few missions. That's not saying that the last few missions couldn't be hero-henched anyway though.

Anyway, my vote goes to Nightfall. Prettier environment, heroes are farking awesome, Paragons and Dervishes kick butt aaannnd... (drumroll)... the characters move their mouths while speaking in cutscenes!

I really like all three campaigns, but I'd easily choose Nightfall over Factions if I had to pick one.

darktyco · Nov 20, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by twentynine

The AI problems... meh. Sometimes mobs aggro you from outside of your aggro bubble. Not the end of the world. We're spoiled rotten with Guild Wars, the only game to even show you your aggro range on the minimap.

This isn't a bug, it is one of the abilities of the Kournan Spotters.

Alias_X · Nov 20, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

It is fair to say more people like Nightfall than Factions. Based on statistics, you are more likely to like Nigthfall.

Walkrr · Nov 21, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

do all of the expansions cost $50 even? or is one cheaper than the other.

Apple · Nov 21, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Everyone related to both pve and pvp hate factions, so buy nightfall. Factions brought about 5 useful skills to pvp, and had a horrible campaign. Nightfall brings about 50 useful skills to pvp and has a fantastic campaign. It's up to you.

honnaja · Nov 21, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10

I'd agree with 'Titan Chrae' and 'twentynine' above.

When I played the Factions PVE I absolutely fell in love with it. The scenery took my breath away. I think it may be fair to say that what ruined Factions for many was the LOCKED GATES that you kept coming up against, which meant you had to go back, do stuff in a certain order and generally gave a feeling of wasting your time. That's certainly what put me off it anyway. Other than that, I think it's great. Offered new titles and loads to do. I was never bored and still have stuff there I want to finish.
The Assassin and Ritualist are marvellous and I have seen both used extremely effectively. I have solo-farmed with my Assassin, as have many, thanks to a very switched-on player who shared their ideas; and I believe that there are solo Ritualist builds out there too. One of my Guildies loves his Ritualist.

As usual, it depends on your personal tastes.

Nightfall is absolutely gorgeous and I love the Paragon. I haven't had as much time to play so can't really comment about the Dervish, since I've hardly played it yet. Again, there are added titles to aim for (though I'm not completely happy about the 'forced' nature of the Sunspear titles - everyone has them!) and again, lots of new content and loads to do, especially if you've created all classes since the start and want to get them all through this third campaign! /catchbreath

All campaigns cost the same (??29.99) from the GW shop, but if you shop around you should be able to pick them up for about half of this. Not bad for something that you don't have to keep paying for each month.

P.S: Just wanted to say what a good post Titan Chrae did. Well explained without any flaming. Nice

Walkrr · Nov 21, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32

What is the conversion price for £29.99 to US dollars?

honnaja · Nov 21, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

According to www.xe.com £29.99 would be $56.94 (USD)

Nov 21, 2006, 07:10 AM // 07:10	#28
honnaja Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Guild: LoF, Rtr	Whatever floats your boat I'd agree with 'Titan Chrae' and 'twentynine' above. When I played the Factions PVE I absolutely fell in love with it. The scenery took my breath away. I think it may be fair to say that what ruined Factions for many was the LOCKED GATES that you kept coming up against, which meant you had to go back, do stuff in a certain order and generally gave a feeling of wasting your time. That's certainly what put me off it anyway. Other than that, I think it's great. Offered new titles and loads to do. I was never bored and still have stuff there I want to finish. The Assassin and Ritualist are marvellous and I have seen both used extremely effectively. I have solo-farmed with my Assassin, as have many, thanks to a very switched-on player who shared their ideas; and I believe that there are solo Ritualist builds out there too. One of my Guildies loves his Ritualist. As usual, it depends on your personal tastes. Nightfall is absolutely gorgeous and I love the Paragon. I haven't had as much time to play so can't really comment about the Dervish, since I've hardly played it yet. Again, there are added titles to aim for (though I'm not completely happy about the 'forced' nature of the Sunspear titles - everyone has them!) and again, lots of new content and loads to do, especially if you've created all classes since the start and want to get them all through this third campaign! /catchbreath All campaigns cost the same (??29.99) from the GW shop, but if you shop around you should be able to pick them up for about half of this. Not bad for something that you don't have to keep paying for each month. P.S: Just wanted to say what a good post Titan Chrae did. Well explained without any flaming. Nice

Nov 20, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#21
Peka Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: N/	nightfall enough said

Nov 20, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58	#25
Alias_X Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005	It is fair to say more people like Nightfall than Factions. Based on statistics, you are more likely to like Nigthfall.

Nov 21, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#26
Walkrr Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006	do all of the expansions cost $50 even? or is one cheaper than the other.

Nov 21, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44	#27
Apple Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Everyone related to both pve and pvp hate factions, so buy nightfall. Factions brought about 5 useful skills to pvp, and had a horrible campaign. Nightfall brings about 50 useful skills to pvp and has a fantastic campaign. It's up to you.

Nov 21, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32	#29
Walkrr Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2006	What is the conversion price for £29.99 to US dollars?

Nov 21, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48	#30
honnaja Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Guild: LoF, Rtr	According to www.xe.com £29.99 would be $56.94 (USD)